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		<title>By: barb</title>
		<link>http://bloggochicago.com/2006/08/28/a-sense-of-not-belonging/comment-page-1/#comment-2515</link>
		<dc:creator>barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 19:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Brian,&lt;/strong&gt; thanks for stopping by!

&lt;strong&gt;FellowBPer,&lt;/strong&gt; thank you for writing.  although i was diagnosed in &#039;94, there are still times, like now, when i find it very hard to accept that i have bipolar, but i think it&#039;s normal to feel that way sometimes.

one of the things that makes it difficult to accept is the stigma that&#039;s still associated with mental illness, though society has come a long way since 1994.  putting those Zoloft blobs out there helped, i think.   :d  seriously, though, writing openly about living with bipolar disorder is my way, however small, of fighting that stigma, of letting other BPers know they&#039;re not alone, and for me to remember that i&#039;m not alone, either.

thanks, too, for recommending Recovery, Inc.  the Program Coordinator at IOP gave me their number to call, but it&#039;s always good to hear from someone who&#039;s actually tried it.  i&#039;ll contact them.  :)

by the way, &lt;strong&gt;pantheranon&lt;/strong&gt; is my husband.  heehee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><acronym title="my awesome husband">Brian</acronym>,</strong> thanks for stopping by!</p>
<p><strong>FellowBPer,</strong> thank you for writing.  although i was diagnosed in &#8217;94, there are still times, like now, when i find it very hard to accept that i have bipolar, but i think it&#8217;s normal to feel that way sometimes.</p>
<p>one of the things that makes it difficult to accept is the stigma that&#8217;s still associated with mental illness, though society has come a long way since 1994.  putting those Zoloft blobs out there helped, i think.   :d  seriously, though, writing openly about living with bipolar disorder is my way, however small, of fighting that stigma, of letting other BPers know they&#8217;re not alone, and for me to remember that i&#8217;m not alone, either.</p>
<p>thanks, too, for recommending Recovery, Inc.  the Program Coordinator at IOP gave me their number to call, but it&#8217;s always good to hear from someone who&#8217;s actually tried it.  i&#8217;ll contact them.  <img src='http://bloggochicago.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>by the way, <strong>pantheranon</strong> is my husband.  heehee.</p>
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		<title>By: FellowBPer</title>
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		<dc:creator>FellowBPer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 01:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I sometimes check into your blogsite because I also have BP and it makes me feel less alone to read about your struggles which you describe with great honesty, endearing humor, and intelligence. I love what &quot;pantheranon&quot; wrote about because when we&#039;re depressed, we really make ourselves worse by comparing with others and judging ourselves. Like you, I have a hard time accepting my illness and how it has disabled my life though I am grateful that you are so open as to devote a public blogsite to it. Therapy has helped me a lot. Another organization I&#039;ve been exploring is Recovery Inc. which is a support group for people with anxiety, depression, etc. I am not a big group-joiner and I don&#039;t subscribe to all the &quot;slogans&quot; that are used for combatting negative thoughts and disabling feelings, but I have found them useful and the members very friendly and positive. Perhaps you could too. It&#039;s worth checking out and I believe the headquarters is in Chicago. The founder is Dr. Abraham Low--if you want to do an internet search. Also, I have less shame about my illness when I can see &quot;normal&quot;-looking people battling depression, anxiety etc. and as I feel respect for them, I feel more respect for myself. Good luck and thanks again for sharing your life.  -A fan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I sometimes check into your blogsite because I also have BP and it makes me feel less alone to read about your struggles which you describe with great honesty, endearing humor, and intelligence. I love what &#8220;pantheranon&#8221; wrote about because when we&#8217;re depressed, we really make ourselves worse by comparing with others and judging ourselves. Like you, I have a hard time accepting my illness and how it has disabled my life though I am grateful that you are so open as to devote a public blogsite to it. Therapy has helped me a lot. Another organization I&#8217;ve been exploring is Recovery Inc. which is a support group for people with anxiety, depression, etc. I am not a big group-joiner and I don&#8217;t subscribe to all the &#8220;slogans&#8221; that are used for combatting negative thoughts and disabling feelings, but I have found them useful and the members very friendly and positive. Perhaps you could too. It&#8217;s worth checking out and I believe the headquarters is in Chicago. The founder is Dr. Abraham Low&#8211;if you want to do an internet search. Also, I have less shame about my illness when I can see &#8220;normal&#8221;-looking people battling depression, anxiety etc. and as I feel respect for them, I feel more respect for myself. Good luck and thanks again for sharing your life.  -A fan</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://bloggochicago.com/2006/08/28/a-sense-of-not-belonging/comment-page-1/#comment-2513</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 00:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gald you agreed with the rest of the commenters, cause i am on their side.  I don&#039;t know you, but i think lots of us have a tendency to get into cycles of uncertainty.  it&#039;s tough when our society is expecting perfection from us.  i&#039;ve started blogging on this very issue of how hard it is to find that sense of belonging - www.nurturingbelonging.ca .  best of luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gald you agreed with the rest of the commenters, cause i am on their side.  I don&#8217;t know you, but i think lots of us have a tendency to get into cycles of uncertainty.  it&#8217;s tough when our society is expecting perfection from us.  i&#8217;ve started blogging on this very issue of how hard it is to find that sense of belonging &#8211; <a href="http://www.nurturingbelonging.ca" rel="nofollow">http://www.nurturingbelonging.ca</a> .  best of luck.</p>
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		<title>By: barb</title>
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		<dc:creator>barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 00:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all right, folks!  you got me!  thanks for showing me the other point of view.  i&#039;ll be sure to update tomorrow about how the enrollement process goes.   :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all right, folks!  you got me!  thanks for showing me the other point of view.  i&#8217;ll be sure to update tomorrow about how the enrollement process goes.   <img src='http://bloggochicago.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Charred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um...they think you work there because you&#039;re so much more &quot;together&quot; than they are.  It means you&#039;re doing well, and should be taken as a compliment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230;they think you work there because you&#8217;re so much more &#8220;together&#8221; than they are.  It means you&#8217;re doing well, and should be taken as a compliment.</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
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		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more with pantheranon.  You are not being fair to yourself Barb.  I think that you are extremely intelligent and educated, and that&#039;s the reason why peple think you work there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more with pantheranon.  You are not being fair to yourself Barb.  I think that you are extremely intelligent and educated, and that&#8217;s the reason why peple think you work there.</p>
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		<title>By: barb</title>
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		<dc:creator>barb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;bp_hockey_chick,&lt;/strong&gt; yes--i have that feeling like i&#039;m going to be found out.  or like i&#039;m some sort of imposter.  but you and &lt;strong&gt;pantheranon&lt;/strong&gt; are right--it&#039;s a symptom of the condition.  well, tomorrow i have my intake interview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>bp_hockey_chick,</strong> yes&#8211;i have that feeling like i&#8217;m going to be found out.  or like i&#8217;m some sort of imposter.  but you and <strong>pantheranon</strong> are right&#8211;it&#8217;s a symptom of the condition.  well, tomorrow i have my intake interview.</p>
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		<title>By: pantheranon</title>
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		<dc:creator>pantheranon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i understand what you&#039;re feeling, about not fitting in; but i also think that the way you feel is a symptom of your condition, and that you&#039;re not being fair to yourself--you&#039;re both a) honestly feeling bad about the setbacks in your own life (not having a wedding, not having disposable income right now), and b) feeling bad because you feel bad about those things--feeling bad that your problems aren&#039;t as bad as other people&#039;s problems.

that&#039;s really not fair to yourself; &lt;strong&gt;and&lt;/strong&gt;, in some ways, it&#039;s like your using both your own problems and other people&#039;s problems to make yourself feel worse.  as long as your mental illness and its effects make you feel bad, you belong at the ssa (if you choose to go there); once your mental illness and its effects stop making you feel bad--once you can look at the other people in the ssa and feel bad for them--just feel bad for them, and not about yourself (because of the insignificance of your problems)--then that will mean you&#039;re probably doing better, and maybe don&#039;t need to go there (or should go there as a tutor/graduate, not a participant).

does that make sense?  i guess the point i&#039;m trying to make is that your sense of not belonging--and the fact that you&#039;re criticizing yourself over it--is actually evidence of the fact that the ssa could (and will) help you out; and that the &quot;problem&quot; is with the other participants making judgments about you, because of your appearance, rather than your challenges (which they don&#039;t know about yet).

ok, i&#039;ll get off my soapbox now.  hang in there!  love!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i understand what you&#8217;re feeling, about not fitting in; but i also think that the way you feel is a symptom of your condition, and that you&#8217;re not being fair to yourself&#8211;you&#8217;re both a) honestly feeling bad about the setbacks in your own life (not having a wedding, not having disposable income right now), and b) feeling bad because you feel bad about those things&#8211;feeling bad that your problems aren&#8217;t as bad as other people&#8217;s problems.</p>
<p>that&#8217;s really not fair to yourself; <strong>and</strong>, in some ways, it&#8217;s like your using both your own problems and other people&#8217;s problems to make yourself feel worse.  as long as your mental illness and its effects make you feel bad, you belong at the ssa (if you choose to go there); once your mental illness and its effects stop making you feel bad&#8211;once you can look at the other people in the ssa and feel bad for them&#8211;just feel bad for them, and not about yourself (because of the insignificance of your problems)&#8211;then that will mean you&#8217;re probably doing better, and maybe don&#8217;t need to go there (or should go there as a tutor/graduate, not a participant).</p>
<p>does that make sense?  i guess the point i&#8217;m trying to make is that your sense of not belonging&#8211;and the fact that you&#8217;re criticizing yourself over it&#8211;is actually evidence of the fact that the ssa could (and will) help you out; and that the &#8220;problem&#8221; is with the other participants making judgments about you, because of your appearance, rather than your challenges (which they don&#8217;t know about yet).</p>
<p>ok, i&#8217;ll get off my soapbox now.  hang in there!  love!</p>
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		<title>By: bp_hockey_chick</title>
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		<dc:creator>bp_hockey_chick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, when I&#039;m not feeling right (meaning, I&#039;m not stable) I feel like I don&#039;t belong anywhere either.  Even now, when I&#039;ve been stable for weeks and weeks, I still shy away from certain situations, positive that I&#039;m a thorn among roses and just waiting to be found out.  I think it&#039;s a trait common to people with our medical history.  Doesn&#039;t make it easier, but just to let you know it&#039;s not just you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, when I&#8217;m not feeling right (meaning, I&#8217;m not stable) I feel like I don&#8217;t belong anywhere either.  Even now, when I&#8217;ve been stable for weeks and weeks, I still shy away from certain situations, positive that I&#8217;m a thorn among roses and just waiting to be found out.  I think it&#8217;s a trait common to people with our medical history.  Doesn&#8217;t make it easier, but just to let you know it&#8217;s not just you.</p>
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